Alien dismisses the rabble talking about rights,

Heard it all before Caz...not playing your cyber pissing contest.

Hey i didnt start this thread on the idea of "tolerable speech", but i sure as heck am going to participate....
Look Alien, I already let ATS off my hook here by touting it as seemingly the best place for open and intelligent communications, I understand NOONE
in Admin power in ATS is interested in, nor must become a champion for this cause or ANY cause other than the mythical "denial of ignorace". Its OK,
you dont have to be soo defensive.
But the Issue of "nice speech" or weather or not to speak in a civil tone or not is tied directly to "free speech". Bottom line...FREE SPEECH
ISNT ALWAYS NICE, nor should it be sanitized to be so....
sterilization of speech is one of the slippery steps tword fascisim or control of people and their ideas. What good is an idea if you have to HIDE it
out of fear or cant get it heard enough to make a difference.
This months T.W.A.T. Sofi is running a thread about the secretive government and media control of information.....Her allegations are fine even tho
some of them are only speculative....
My point there is were SOOO worried that the GOV or CORPS or the MEDIA is controling info, yet when it comes to the freedom to Speak as individules,
noone is concerned that your voice isnt going to be heard?
No one sees this right as already in SERIOUS jeapordy in other ways than "detention camps for protesters at the RNC"?
Again those alread PAYING TO SPEAK, or representing them pipe in,
Alien blasts,
You've had your answer many many times on this site in regards to this 'mission' of yours...and the answer will be the same again and again too. If
you can't accept that - then either a)shut the hell up about it already, or b)find somewhere else to be a martyr.

You mean the standard Corporate line....yes ive heard it, you mean the passing the buck for the responsabillity as communication/info
providers/purveyors to NOT concern themselves with speech issues (other than to limit it)? Yep im aware of that too.
Your implication that i am a martyr means you must also see that there IS a cause here, perhaps one worth DYING FOR! As our FIRST civil right, i
would think this IS something of high value and not something to just say
shut the hell up about it already

Easy to say when YOU have YOUR right to speak AND YOUR in a position to be the judge of others speech merits or flaws, restrict, or outright
ban them. You see NO irony here?
Be silent or Be gone, nice Alien....isnt this EXACTLY the message im questioning? Advocacy of discrimination and the removal of a civil right because
someone can BUY it away form you and then demand compliance?
Isnt this the SAME thing i hear spewed about the NWO, Illuminati, BUSH, the GOV, evil Corps and their media lapdogs all the time?
Oh yeah,
its ok to question THEM but not US or other citizen/members about this....
Again im NOT trying to fight ATS or alien, but hearing the line from "the man" only adds weight to my point.
ASIDE from defending ATS or yourself as a MOD (neither is on trial, but seem to be a good example)
What do you think about this in the more general sense Alien,
are you advocating that free speech is only a right if you can afford it?
MUST we only speak as long as its nice?
Does free speech include dissention?
Does it include "hateful" speech?
In order to show tolerance, dont we have to tolerate these forms of speech?
In order to Deny ignorance, Doesnt excluding some forms of speech limit this pursuit?
I await the comming beatdown from "the man".