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Topic started on 4-4-2006 @ 01:12 PM by Arostotle
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You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. As you read this, 39 years later, you
should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out. I first ran across this list 3 years ago but was unable to attain a copy and it has
bothered me ever since. Recently, Jeff Rense posted it on his site
Is it just me, or are many of the goals on this list already in affect?
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reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 02:10 PM by wecomeinpeace
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reply posted on 12-4-2006 @ 01:47 AM by toasted
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I'd love to hear more
because I have similar comcerns
I'd say just off the top
it looks like about HALF !
arostotle , are you still with us ?
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reply posted on 21-4-2006 @ 03:24 PM by please_takemyrights
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reply posted on 21-4-2006 @ 03:41 PM by Nygdan
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I wouldn't take that list as realistic. It sounds more like anti-communist rhetoric. Beleive me, I see nothing worthwhile wrt communism, but I can
recognize propaganda and illogic when I see it. For example:
Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
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reply posted on 21-4-2006 @ 04:41 PM by Excitable_Boy
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I agree with Nygdan. Rense is pretty well known to supply "questionable" information at best. It does sound like propaganda....similar to the
McCarthy era nonsense. Nonsense from Rense....
Communism has been falling apart all over the planet...how and why would this country be in any danger of communist takeover? Makes no sense. But,
socialism...now that is the one to be concerned with!....and a Dictatorship disguised as Democracy.....
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reply posted on 21-4-2006 @ 04:59 PM by theBman
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I'm not sure if this gives any credence to the article but i found the same information on a site registered to the Australian government.
In 1958, Cleon Skoussen, former FBI agent, revealed in his book, The Naked Communist, the long term goals of the communist agenda. This information is
also contained not only in the Congressional Record (August 1963), but also in the Communist Manifesto itself. For the sake of brevity, only a few of
those goals are listed here: 1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. 2. Develop the illusion that total
disarmament by the U.S. would be a demonstration of moral strength. 3. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of communist
affiliation....
pandora.nla.gov.au...://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/399/2208.html
Actualy the link above implies that the .gov.au site only has the link to this material and doesnt actualy host it itself.
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reply posted on 22-4-2006 @ 12:58 PM by echelon
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there is validity to some of the things listed. such as the infiltration of our educational institutions. this has been going on since the late 70's
and throughout the 80's. given the sinister nature of the american communist party, its cells were active until the dissolution of the soviet union.
today, the only stronghold they have is hollywood. there are many things about the party that have been disclosed and are available publicly.
check out: www.comintern-online.com...
komintern-online
The Communist Party of the USA (CPUSA) has always been a secretive organization. While occasional government raids, subpoenas, search warrants, and
congressional investigations made some documentation part of the public record, the quantity was never large because of the party's practice of
hiding or destroying records.
all of this supports the fact that communism will always be a failure. there may be a few who join the ranks of the party because of their pure will
to develop a delusional egalitarian society, but that will never be due to the leaders' unfavorable objectives. the communist party is literally a
cult, with the intent of global domination.
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reply posted on 22-4-2006 @ 01:07 PM by denythestatusquo
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This list has been around for many years and did not originate with the Rense site by the way. The list appears to being nearly complete and despite
the naysayers and shoulder shruggers I believe it's progression will lead us into WWIII as some people in this world will want to fight back against
this ever happening.
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reply posted on 22-4-2006 @ 05:54 PM by Nygdan
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Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
I agree with Nygdan. Rense is pretty well known to supply "questionable" information at best. It does sound like propaganda
TO be clear, I am not saying that Rense is creating propaganda, but that the source is of the information is being used as propaganda.
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reply posted on 4-5-2006 @ 12:05 PM by socrepLT
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This is adorable, oooooh the big bad communists are coming to get us...30 or so years ago...and all possible coincidences to the list are in FACT of
their doing…with connections to some massive decade spanning infiltration that’s being continued on by the CPUSA!?!!? Wow, sounds like grasping
at invisible threads to me. As fun a it my be to try and boil down the responsibility of several decades of national and international changes to
the evil communists, real world application and practicality don’t seem to hold up. The actual "communist agenda" is actually far less sinister
and hidden, to put it in a very basic form; workers realize they don't need bourgeoisie, workers take rightful control of capital and production, go
worldwide, new international classless socio-economic system born.
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reply posted on 4-5-2006 @ 02:09 PM by Two Steps Forward
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Of all the things on the list, the only one that was EVER a goal of ANY Communist party in the U.S. was the infiltration of the labor movement, which
makes a whole lot of sense when you think about it -- and THAT occurred, not in the 1960s, but in the 1920s and 1930s.
Everything else is just a worry list of bewildered conservatives seeing the culture change and looking for somebody to blame, or some way to scare
people into trying to reverse the trends. And some of the items just totally crack me up. I mean, really, Communists taking control of big
business?
Yeah, right.
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reply posted on 12-5-2006 @ 03:35 PM by Odium
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How nice of Rense.
I assume they travelled, dug up Karl Marx, created some form of divice that could speak to him and then made this list. Or wait...they made it up. In
fact, let's for a moment look for a Marxist, Communist or Neo Communist book which states anything like this?
List it, I'm game and I am sure I have it...
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reply posted on 31-1-2009 @ 10:51 PM by Anonymous ATS
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EXCITABLE-BOY, YOU NEED TO LEARN SOME HISTORY. THE McCARTHY ERA NONSENSE YOU SAY? THERE SHOULD BE BRONZE STATUES TO SEN. McCARTHY IN EVERY TOWN IN
USA. WHEN THE SOVIET UNION WAS TOPPLED THANKS TO PRESIDENT REAGAN, THE ULTRA-SECRET, HIGHEST SECURITY FILES OF THE KGB WERE RELEASED TO THE WORLD. IN
WHAT BECAME KNOWN AS "THE VENONA PAPERS" TOP SECRET COMMUNIST FILES REVEALED THE TRUTH OF COMMUNIST INFILTRATION INTO NOT ONLY HOLLYWOOD, but the
white house as well. EVERY SUSPECT SEN. McCARTHY AND HIS STAFF ID'd WERE INDEED COMMUNIST INFILTRATORS. ALGER HISS WAS ON FDR's STAFF AND HE WAS
CONVICTED AND SENT TO PRISON IN THE 50's. HIS NAME WAS IN THE VENONA PAPERS AS WERE THE ROSENBERGs WHO WERE EXECUTED FOR SPYING. THE VENONA PAPERS
REVEALED THEY HAD BEEN AWARDED BY STALIN HIMSELF WITH HIGHEST HONORS FOR THEIR WORK IN STEALING AMERICAN ATOMIC BOMB SECRETS. IN ANN COULTERS BEST
SELLING BOOK "TREASON" SHE DOCUMENTS AND VERIFIES ALL I WROTE ABOVE AND MUCH, MUCH MORE. SHE DEVOTES AN ENTIRE CHAPTER TO THE GREAT WAR HERO, SEN.
McCARTHY AND DOCUMENTS THE VALIDITY OF ALL HE UNCOVERED SO LONG AGO. IT IS IRREFUTABLE NOW THAT WE HAVE THE PROOF FROM THE KGB FILES THEMSELVES. I
BELIEVED ONCE AS YOU DID. THE LEFT IN THIS COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY HOLLYWOOD, WHICH RECENTLY TRIED TO RUN A MOVIE MOCKING McCARTHY FLOPPED. GOOGLE THE
VENONA PAPERS, ALGER HISS AND SO MANY MORE COMMUNIST SPIES THAT ACTUALLT WERE CONVICTED FOR SPYING BUT IT IS "HUSHED UP" IN THE LEFTIST MEDIA. SEN.
JOSEPH McCARTHY WAS 100% CORRECT AND HE IS AN AMERICAN HERO. AGAIN, ANN COULTERS N.Y. TIMES BEST SELLER "TREASON" HAS DOCUMENTED THE PROOF FOR YOU
AS HAVE MANY OTHER WORKS BUT YOU CAN FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF WITH GOOGLE. COM OR YAHOO. COM, ETC. COL. T. Haggerty, MD, PhD (Ret)
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