Ever read someone's post and think that?


Ever wish there was a way to pin them down and dissect their arguments?


Well now you can!

All you have to do is, in thread, issue a debate challenge to a specific person on a specific topic, and point them out to this thread.

If they accept, then one of you can U2U me, with a "single post" link to the one that started the argument, and we will set up a mini-debate within the Debate Forum. The two of you will present your ideas, offer rebuttals, and the Debate will be judged by a panel of judges. Both participants will get "Fighter" titles as part of the process.

This way, there's no ignoring of one another's most salient points, people will have to address the issues. No squirming or dodging allowed!


Don't start debates over silly issues. Not all debate applications will be accepted for the debate forum. Both members will have to be prepared to set aside time to engage in the debate.

Wow, excellent idea

I can see this working really well, I'm just surprised it wasn't thought of sooner. Like it

Capital!

Mad propz to whoever came up with this one!

Okay, I challenge you to every thread I've ever seen you on, Nygdan

What's the point really though? Everyone already just debates on threads... that's the whole point, or they'd all be done in one post, or filled with everyone agreeing. You're just taking material that belongs on a thread of the proper topic, and moving it completely out of context to a generic forum. So we're just going to have a bunch of material that people should really hear thrown away into a forum no one visits (or at least I don't), when it should be seen by the people who are interested in it most, in their own topic-related forums.

I don't like it being between two people, so structured and locked-down. If there is a right and wrong, why not just let everyone in on the action that can lend some information? If there isn't a defined right and wrong, why waste the time having a debate that will not solve anything? It's just going to push two rivals even further apart. And it ruins the whole sense of community.

Uh oh. Looks like we need a debate for this thread already.

[edit on 10-5-2006 by Yarcofin]

This could turn out to be fun.

Nygdan, are staff included in this, as well?

GOT to be. I can't wait to see one of those cage matches.

I think this is a great idea. The regular threads will still be available for the typical chaos, but this will allow head-to-head debate without the random goofball (like me) chiming in and taking the thread askew.

Oh man what a freakin great idea!!!!!!!


What would the format be like?

I have contacted YIAWETA via u2u and have issued the following challenge.

A debate on the John Lennon assassination and the so-called fabrication of the Beatles.





[edit on 10-5-2006 by chissler]

This is a great idea. I can't tell you how annoyed the dodgers get me. Can we develop a new smiley that resembles a :glove slap:

I agree it may be a good idea but it can get very heated and can make some people animosity toward one another greater.

It may work for some but not for others so I imagine that monitoring will be very close.

I for one will never agree to be put in a situation like this of one on one, I like the way I have been doing so far and I enjoy the posts.

So if anybody is thinking to challenge me, thanks but no thanks.

Good luck for anybody that will decided to try this new endeavor.

Have fun.

w0w0w0w...

amazing idea that should be totally fun

who thought of this (nygdan)???

major cudos to the ATSers that did...

OTHER PEOPLE are interetsed? That could be a point no?

Dude... The words lighten UP come to mind immediately, and, the concept of "If you're not interested, IGNORE IT comes to mind right after that.

I would also advise against taking the GREAT Nygdan "on" in any debate.

Springer...

[edit on 5-10-2006 by Springer]

Looks like we might have our first debate challenge brewing already.

Great Idea

Will these debates have the same rules as regular debates...24hr post periods, word limits, links, etc...etc...

Sporty

[edit on 10/5/2006 by SportyMB]

I can understand what you are getting at.

The thing that makes this different is that its more structured, if someone doesn't respond to your salient points the judges will notice it, they'll get called on it, and there won't be any question of people 'not getting around' to that particular point, or shrugging off the evidence For the more well researched ones, there will be time to compose responses rather than posting reactions. Citations will be encouraged, and that in itself will condense the evidence involved and make an excellent reference for those viewing the debates.

Plus, after winning, you get to say 'neeener neeener neeeeeeeeennnneeeer'.

And thats just fun.


People will still be able to continue their threads as normal. The sort of points that they'll be able to bring up will be the sort that they wouldn't normally get to in a discussion thread, where there are many people discussing different aspects of a wide topic simulateously.


Really? Thats your loss my man! There are some incredible discussions in that forum!

when it should be seen by the people who are interested in it most,

This should greatly reduce the amount of off-topic debates that are sometimes carried over by opponents over multiple threads and forums.


[edit on 10/5/06 by ConspiracyNut23]

Just in case you want to preserve the DEBATE forum for full fledged debates.

You might start a mini debate forum...

I would call it:

"TAKE IT OUTSIDE GUYS!"

anyway, my 2 pesos..

Love it. Gonna see if I can start one right now!!

TheBorg

Sounds like a great idea. I wanna get involved some, so I'll go off a huntin' for stray game, aye boys?

ps. did anyone else just experience the 1/2 - 1 hours down time on ats?

I'd like to debate WyrdeOne on whether or not it's acceptible for me to throw a fit over him wearing my debate pennant Just Kidding. I know that the pennant is, at very best, second priority to sorting out the intermitent slowdown problem from the server-switch, and more realistically, somewhere around priority 57, just above adding one or two new shades of grey to the ATS color scheme.


On a more serious note, I love this new idea. It seems like a great way to test ideas sans-flames when threads get heated, assuming (as we probably can) that the truly great posters around here have the maturity not to take these debates personally.


Well, I'm off to find somebody i disagree with. Finals will be over after tuesday and I'll be looking for victims. I'm already starting to do the math on how many of these I would have to win to have the best debate record on ATS. (5-1 is respectable and all, but that 1 really burns my perfectionist side).