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Arnold for president?




Topic started on 28-6-2006 @ 09:10 PM by StreetCorner Philosopher


Ive been hearing that he might run . His grandfather is related to George Bush sr. He is definatly someone I can see become president despite that he was born in austria. I encourage anyone who is interested to visit prisonplanet.com. There are videos, documentaries, and articles on arnold's history and his facsist statements.



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reply posted on 1-7-2006 @ 12:02 PM by Odium


Why is this in the Socialist Forum?

I hope you do realise, Fascism and Socialism are two different things?



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reply posted on 1-7-2006 @ 01:14 PM by StreetCorner Philosopher


I could not find any fascist forums. Hitler was a socialist. Arnold's ancestors in Austria have Nazi ties. It's true. The Governor said that people need to be governed. A country needs a dictator because 95% of people need to be told what to do. His exact words.



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reply posted on 1-7-2006 @ 04:12 PM by Odium


No, the National Socialist Party was a Socialist Group just by name. Stalin said the U.S.S.R. was a democracy, it doesn't make it so.

Also, use the search function the topic on Arnold has been done to death time and time again.



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reply posted on 2-7-2006 @ 03:30 AM by StreetCorner Philosopher


Socialists are basically capitalists? Correct me if im wrong.



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reply posted on 2-7-2006 @ 04:37 AM by djohnsto77


It's highly unlikely Arnold could ever run for President. There would have to be an amendment to the Constitution that would allow naturalized citizens to be elected as president, because at the present time the U.S. Constitution requires Presidents and Vice-Presidents to be natural born citizens of the United States.



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reply posted on 2-7-2006 @ 04:52 AM by Odium



Originally posted by StreetCorner Philosopher
Socialists are basically capitalists? Correct me if im wrong.


You are wrong on a massive scale. Socialism itself has hundreds of direct brances. I've over viewed it before: politics.abovetopsecret.com...



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reply posted on 2-7-2006 @ 01:11 PM by StreetCorner Philosopher


ok, so a classless society with incentives for wealth if possible of course. Sounds like a revised marxist ideal. I was always wondering about socialists and their plans.



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reply posted on 3-7-2006 @ 12:20 AM by speakerfortheliving



Originally posted by StreetCorner Philosopher
ok, so a classless society with incentives for wealth if possible of course. Sounds like a revised marxist ideal. I was always wondering about socialists and their plans.

basicly right. one could call it true communism but with a goverment.



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reply posted on 3-7-2006 @ 12:22 AM by laiguana


I'd vote for Arnold, he'd be a fine and entertaining president I believe...plus I enjoy his movies



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reply posted on 3-7-2006 @ 12:28 AM by StreetCorner Philosopher


Well, you havent seen the video on prisonplanet.com yet. Arnold would be the next Hitler for sure.



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reply posted on 3-7-2006 @ 12:37 AM by laiguana


Oh wonderful....more Hitler associations...when will they ever end? I don't see anything Hitlerish about Arnold, he's all American and he loves this country.



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reply posted on 3-7-2006 @ 12:46 AM by StreetCorner Philosopher


I know, I know, more hitler associations...but lets face it. He's from Austria...Hitler also from the german/austrian border. Arnolds grandfather is related to Bush family somehow. And, Hitler comes to mind because Arnold's grandpops was a nazi.



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reply posted on 26-1-2007 @ 07:10 PM by SteveR



Originally posted by StreetCorner Philosopher
but lets face it. He's from Austria...


So because someone is from Austria they are likely to be a Nazi?




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reply posted on 26-1-2007 @ 08:07 PM by RRconservative


Come on people! Arnold is Constitutionally prohibited from running for President. It called Civics 101!

Even if he could I wouldn't vote for him. Maria Shriver is too much of an influence over him. Just look at his massive swing to the left over the last few months.



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reply posted on 26-1-2007 @ 08:13 PM by SteveR


Swing to the left? Are you kidding?

He's probably just following public opinion as always. He knows what's good for him.

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reply posted on 26-1-2007 @ 10:19 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation



Originally posted by SteveR
Swing to the left? Are you kidding?

He's probably just following public opinion as always. He knows what's good for him.

[edit on 26/1/07 by SteveR]


Being from California or Kal-I-Forni-A as Arnold says, I agree with this statement. He follows his puppeteers, because without them he's just a bad actor. Remember he won on a recall vote (onlyhad to win 12% of vote) of Gray Davis because of the whole california energy crisis a few years back. Then we come to find out it was ENRON the whole time redirecting energy off the grid and then back on at a higher price.

AAC



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reply posted on 27-1-2007 @ 03:17 AM by ANOK



Originally posted by speakerfortheliving
basicly right. one could call it true communism but with a goverment.


Not necessarily. True socialism, or Libertarian-Socialism, comes without government.

Many of us believe socialism is impossible while maintaining a governmental overlord. Socialism will only be possible with control from the bottom up, as apposed to the top down. This will take away the chance for elites to form and monopolise the economy and means of production.

We need to do away with private control of resources, and put it in the hands of all of us as a community. Collectives instead of monopolies.

And of course no Arnold is not a socialist. Maybe a 'National-Socialist', but don't let the term socialist there confuse you, it's not socialism it's fascism.
Anything that comes with an overbearing authority, military or otherwise is not socialist. Just like the USSR was not socialist, or communist, it was a dictatorship.

You've got to realise the the powers that be have, over the years, confused terms to confuse you. The reason Hitler used the term 'socialist' in his party name was to confuse the left into believing he was for the workers. But what did he do? He sent the workers to war to expand his powers. So first rule, never trust a politician, they lie.

Just like in the USA with the right (which the Nazis were btw), trying to tell you they're for Christianity and family values. When in reality they are about corporate growth and monopolisation of the control of resources. Which they do at any expense, i.e. invading countries like Poland, and Iraq.

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