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Another win for adult stem cells! Still nothing for embrionic cells.




Topic started on 16-11-2006 @ 06:41 PM by RRconservative


Stem cell research is working to ease symptoms of Muscular Dystrophy in dogs. This could lead to the same thing in humans! Adult stem cells are worth researching, as opposed to embrionic stem cells, which has not produced anything worth funding. Since embionic stem cell research can't get money from the private sector, they are looking to the government.

This is a great example of private sector money obtaining great medical results! No need for government money!


seattletimes.nwsource.com...


Researchers used stem cells taken from the affected dogs or other dogs, rather than from embryos.


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reply posted on 19-11-2006 @ 11:46 AM by RRconservative


The only setback when making a new post, is when your arguement is so convincing that you don't get any responses.

Once again if embrionic stem cell research is so promising, why does it need federal funding?

I gave an example of adult stem cell research that was not federally funded, at it was a success. Why can't embrionic research do the same?

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reply posted on 19-11-2006 @ 11:59 AM by psyopswatcher


RR, it's been my (crackpot) contention that embryonic stem cell research can't cut the mustard because too many misogynists and bigots can't control where the healing cells are coming from. They think (fear?) they might actually get a backbone from a woman, or worse yet, a penis fix from...?

That's why adult cell research is funded. They want maximum control over the purity of the species. By those who fear being 'contaminated' in their treatment, who also fear they will need this treatment one day.



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reply posted on 19-11-2006 @ 12:27 PM by soficrow


People whose dogs have cancer have been able to get the cancer cured with stem cell therapy for ages.

Cost: $45,000.

Nothing new here.

All it takes is ca$h.



May 26, 2005: Sick dog gets $45,000 stem cell transplant. After treatment for lymphoma, 'Comet' now recovering

The couple spent $45,000 on a stem cell transplant for their golden retriever, who is recovering from lymphoma, a type of cancer that attacks the immune system.

Dr. Edmund Sullivan, a Bellingham veterinarian, performed the transplant last summer, using stem cells from another golden retriever.

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SUCCESSFUL STEM-CELL TRANSPLANTATION IN A DOG WITH CANCER

It has become a routine procedure in human medicine over years now: Stem-cells are transplantated and allow patients with cancer to be cured or at least to benefit from this kind of therapy. Now the first dog with T-cell lymphoma, a golden Retriever, has been treated with a stem-cell transplant. A mile-stone in canine oncology!

`This is the right time for veterinary medicine to take a big step,` says Dr. Edmund Sullivan, Bellingham Veterinary and Critical Care, Bellingham, Wash. `There is definitely a market for the procedure and dogs have better lives, longer.`

Few dogs have received stem-cell transplants, largely due to the price tag that accompanies the procedure — approximately $45,000. But over time, some of the cost can be eliminated.





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reply posted on 19-11-2006 @ 03:30 PM by RRconservative


Yeah! $45,000 that did not come from the government! It came from the private sector!

Embryonic stem cell research shows no promise at all, that makes it kind of hard to get private money. That is why they want Federal Money, because its FREE. NO RESULTS required.



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reply posted on 19-11-2006 @ 04:20 PM by soficrow



Originally posted by RRconservative
Yeah! $45,000 that did not come from the government! It came from the private sector!

Embryonic stem cell research shows no promise at all, that makes it kind of hard to get private money. That is why they want Federal Money, because its FREE. NO RESULTS required.



Erm.

The technology is based on federally funded research.

It's the benefits that accrue to the private sector.




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reply posted on 23-11-2006 @ 08:49 AM by RRconservative



Originally posted by soficrow

Originally posted by RRconservative
Yeah! $45,000 that did not come from the government! It came from the private sector!

Embryonic stem cell research shows no promise at all, that makes it kind of hard to get private money. That is why they want Federal Money, because its FREE. NO RESULTS required.



Erm.

The technology is based on federally funded research.

It's the benefits that accrue to the private sector.




I stand by my original statement. This was private research, with private funds. Not Federal Funds. Only failed theories, like embryonic stem cell research, need federal funds.



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reply posted on 23-11-2006 @ 05:41 PM by marg6043


One of the problem is, that private sector only goes for what benefit them, as profits.

If stem cell reasearch will help cure diseases that until now are the bread and butter of the private multibillion dollare pharmaceutical empire, you bet that they will do anything in their power to stop stem cell and to lobby enough in the government to keep it control and away from public funds.

Is all about money, and big profits.



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