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Topic started on 5-5-2007 @ 09:37 PM by redseal


Please tell me why you hate the USA, is it because we are ridding the world of terrorists, or is it because we give to much money in forien aid, do you just hate all of our technological/medical breakthroughs, or are you all just in envy of our way of life?



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reply posted on 5-5-2007 @ 10:34 PM by madnessinmysoul



Originally posted by redseal
Please tell me why you hate the USA, is it because we are ridding the world of terrorists,



america created the biggest terrorist hotspot in the world through the iraq war. hell, we finance terrorists when it suits our needs.



or is it because we give to much money in forien aid,



yet it's so little when you consider how much the country makes.



do you just hate all of our technological/medical breakthroughs,



the medical breakthroughs that are made by pharma companies and then used to blackmail people?
viagra?

the technology? hell, the rest of the world has caught up and, in some cases, overtaken the USA

edit to add: oh wait, if the right has their way then america will be populated by kids who grew up thinking that ID is an acceptable alternative scientific theory, there goes america's shot at being the leader in science.


or are you all just in envy of our way of life?


why would anyone envy gluttony and greed? waste and pollution? apathy and isolation from the world around us? polarization and hate?

hell, i'm an america and i really hate this country. and yes, i am in fact leaving it.. though that's because i'm going to study abroad.

i don't really hate america the concept, i hate america in practice. sure, it has its good points, but it's bad points out weigh them

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reply posted on 5-5-2007 @ 10:53 PM by Dallas


As far as I can tell, friends of the US to the north care and are aware of the sticky situation presently happening. Americans elected someone who seems hell bent at avenging the attempted murder of his Father in appx /92 while visiting Kuwait?

The Present-President of the USA has increased the danger in our hemisphere from terrorist murders looking for a chemical, biological or other wmd device that will hurt or kill millions of innocent people here. Obviously, when actions are done to increase the threat to us, people have to wonder why and who is responsible? But I certainly don't think it's a thought of hating the USA, just the governing body responsible for the increased threat of mass destruction

Dallas



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reply posted on 5-5-2007 @ 11:27 PM by khunmoon


another why-do-the-world-hate-us-american thread

*Snip*

But most of all because you are distracted from the real issues of this world. And you swallow the lies you're fed.

BTW, I hate ignorance and arrogance, but I don't hate Americans or Arabs or any other ethnic or national group.

I'm afraid if it goes on like this you'll need nationwide therapy ...or have to make war. Only two ways to get out of a frustration, deal with the cause of it ...or smash the symptoms.


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reply posted on 5-5-2007 @ 11:50 PM by whaaa


This may surprise you redseal, but I love America. I love the free enterprise system, the ability to get rich thru the fruit of my labors. I love the people in this country, because they are my friends and potential customers. I have owned my own business for over 30 years and this current administration has declared war on the small businessman, in favor of their cooperate whoredom to the big business campaign contributors.

What I don't love about this country is the hateful, selfrightous, sheep that think that they know how I should think, run my business, who I should sleep with, and take my hard earned taxes to wage a war on a country that never attacked us.

If you think that we are ridding the world of terrorists; you are living in some sort of patriotic dreamland that has little if any contact with the real world. Actually we are creating more terrorists Thur our unlawful intervention, arrogance and the stealing of other countries natural resources. No one like a bully and we are going to pay the price for our arrogance. Maybe not in a militarily way but certainly in an economic squeeze that is gonna hurt real bad. We don't own all the energy resources such as oil and natural gas and our "so called" friends are soon going to show their true colors. That color is green.

You shall see what I mean when the North American Union is put into effect and the dollar becomes worthless.

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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 04:56 AM by bodrul


why is it if you speak out against the actions of the US you are automaticaly hating america and its way of life?



Please tell me why you hate the USA



i dont hate the US just its goverment and how it runs day to day
big diffrence from hating america


is it because we are ridding the world of terrorists,


wouldnt that require the US to stop funding these groups aswell to fight its proxy wars? i mean look at alquida and co,


or is it because we give to much money in forien aid,


dont know what that has got to do with things


do you just hate all of our technological/medical breakthroughs,


give it a couple years more and more people are staying in india and china so their brillient minds wont be in the US


or are you all just in envy of our way of life?



i just eny your way of life
i mean fast food
fat women (large portion are fat)
stupid leaders
deteriating freedom

yes we just envy that



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 05:21 AM by golddragnet



Originally posted by redseal
is it because we are ridding the world of terrorists


USA's bogus War On Terror has increased rather than reduced 'terror', according to a US official report. The number of victims of terrorism worldwide rose 40 per cent last year to more than 20,000, largely because of the escalating violence in Iraq, according to the US State Department report.

The report – which defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against non-combatant targets by sub-national groups of clandestine agents” – says almost 39,000 people were killed, injured or kidnapped because of terrorist incidents in Iraq

www.ft.com...

news.bbc.co.uk...



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 05:28 AM by mazzroth


This kind of topic wears thin, its pathetically self pitying and close to a troll with the assertation that the OP is claiming to be holier than thou.

Here is a wake up call mate, the whole world doesn't hate America like that Mental Giant Bush claims and if you believe that crap you deserve to be a simpelton along side him.

The world hates the US Government and the fact it has become a Fascist regiem that passes on huge compensations to the Military contractors it favours and perpetuates a totally unwinnable war against an idea. It is a bully and thinks it has exclusivity of the world resources and finances which it backs up with military threats.

The last tip I will give you mate is to go find and read "The Confessions of an Economic Hitman" and it will show you that the cabal runs the show and dictates what the elected governement of the day can make policy.



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 05:43 AM by RRex13


Oh dear, I see a lot of generalizations in this thread that disturb me. Please, fellow posters and human beings, try to distinguish between the government and its subjects.

I say subjects because that's what we've become. The US is not a republic or a democracy anymore. I'm not certain exactly what it is, but it isn't really the US anymore either.

The citizens of the US no longer have control over their government. I'm not sure we ever really did. My point is that citizens of other countries mistakenly believe that the average American agrees with and supports the actions of the Bush administration.

Nuh uh. The rabid right may be in Bush's panties, but most of us are appalled. Most of us didn't want to go into Iraq in the first place and have wanted out ever since. Most of us are disgusted with what our government has done and is doing.

I've had no coffee yet this morning, so this post is far from organized, but at least the spelling is correct and you have a rough sense of where I'm coming from.

Thanks for the ear.

EDIT for mazzroth ~ Thanks for the book rec. I just ordered it from my local library.

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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 06:55 AM by riley



Originally posted by redseal
Please tell me why you hate the USA, is it because we are ridding the world of terrorists,


Caught Osama yet or are you still looking in the wrong country?

or is it because we give to much money in forien aid,

Which usually gets embezzled, lost in red tape or comes with moral provisions attached.

do you just hate all of our technological/medical breakthroughs,

Australians cured the stomach ulcer and came up with a vaccine for cervical cancer. Apparently people die outside US hospitals if they don't have health insurence? Sorry.. don't envy that. Haven't really heared of any new medical breakthroughs from america lately but I'm sure they'd be making headway in germ warefare with all the extra funding.

or are you all just in envy of our way of life?

Highest murder rate in the world isn't it?
Most americans are okay and are.. well rational. You on the other hand seem to be buying into the whole 'america is the greatest' rhetoric. It's not.. the whole idea that people are superior or somehow better off just for having been born somewhere in america is bunk. Geography doesn't guarentee food in your mouth or a roof over your head.

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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 07:16 AM by FlyersFan



Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
i'm an america and i really hate this country. and yes, i am in fact leaving it.. though that's because i'm going to study abroad.


.... where I'm sure you'll learn more socialist anti-americanisms.
I'm just glad to see an anti-American getting the heck out of this country.
Perhaps while you are out in the wastelands you will come to appreaciate
America (but considering the anti-american indoctrination in colleges in foreign countries .. I doubt it).


Originally posted by mazzroth
This kind of topic wears thin,


VERY thin.



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 07:20 AM by FlyersFan



Originally posted by riley
Highest murder rate in the world isn't it?


No. We are 24th in the world. Of course... that is from 'official' sources and not the real stats. I doubt the tens of millions of died under Saddams rule would be considered murdered. I doubt that the millions who have died under communism in China would be considered murdered by the gov't there. etc etc

official murder stats by country



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 07:37 AM by ArMaP



Originally posted by redseal
Please tell me why you hate the USA
I don't hate the USA, in fact, I once created a thread asking why so many people in the USA have this thing (is it a disguised inferiority complex? Is there a psychologist in the house? ) about hate.


is it because we are ridding the world of terrorists
The USA is not ridding the world of terrorists. Even if we consider its War on Terror a success (which is at least doubtful), the War on Terror is target against only a part of all terrorist organisations in the world.

Knowing that most terrorist organisations have helped each other in the past, if they are doing the same thing now then we could have a reappearance of older terrorist organisations that were supposed to be extinct because of the bigger "market" for their people.


or is it because we give to much money in forien aid
The USA does not give too much money in foreign aid, there isn't a country in the world that gives "too much" in foreign aid, much less the USA, which is not the world leader in foreign aid(see the PS at the end).


do you just hate all of our technological/medical breakthroughs, or are you all just in envy of our way of life?
Most people outside the USA do not know what are the USA's technological or medical breakthroughs, and they don't care for them.

Why should someone from Afghanistan, for example, hate the USA because someone from there has invented a new graphics chip for use in laptop computers? Or because someone else has discovered a cure for a disease that this hypothetical Afghan does not even know that exists?

And for someone to hate the USA's lifestyle then they need to know it, and the only way of knowing it is living in the USA, even I, with all the knowledge is available to me through TV, radio, Internet, etc., I do not know what really is the life style in the USA.

Is it the possibility of electing their leaders?
Is it eating anything we want, even if it's more than is needed, just because we can?
Is it driving bigger cars that use lots of fuel?
Is it going to the movies?
Is it having free (or cheap) access to the Internet?
Is it the possibility of legally owning fire arms?
Is it having access to good libraries?
Is it the easy access to medical aid, even if you do not have the money for it?
Is it enjoying watching baseball?
Is it enjoying watching car chases on national TV?
Is it being afraid of being assaulted?
Is it being afraid of getting killed in a random shooting?
Is it being afraid of being kidnapped?
Is it being afraid of people who do not even know we exist?

You see, is so difficult to know what is anyone's lifestyle that it is almost impossible for anyone else to hate anyone for it, unless the hater has any mental problem.


PS: I have seen many times that there is the idea that the USA is the country that gives most in foreign aid. According to NationMaster, who gets most of its data from the CIA world factbook, the USA is in 19th place in the list of the biggest donors per capita, just after Portugal, and in the 21st place in the list of the biggest donors for each 1.000$ of the GDP.



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 07:45 AM by brill



Originally posted by FlyersFan
No. We are 24th in the world. Of course... that is from 'official' sources and not the real stats. I doubt the tens of millions of died under Saddams rule would be considered murdered. I doubt that the millions who have died under communism in China would be considered murdered by the gov't there. etc etc

official murder stats by country


From your source I also saw this:


The United States puts 0.7 % of its population in Prison - a vastly higher percentage than any other nation.


In fairness I hope your Iraq numbers include what the CIA has contributed to.

I too agree this is a tired topic and definitely a point getter of which I'm shamefully participating in

brill



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 07:50 AM by riley



Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by riley
Highest murder rate in the world isn't it?


No. We are 24th in the world. Of course... that is from 'official' sources and not the real stats. I doubt the tens of millions of died under Saddams rule would be considered murdered.

Not sure if he killed tens of millions of people.. but no it wouldn't be classed as murder in the official stats as the stats you posted refer to civilian crimes.. not war crimes.



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 07:53 AM by RRex13


The US imprisons a lot of people unnecessarily. Drug users, drunks, burglars, and others, should be wearing GPS ankle bracelets.

Now, scratch the drug users and the drunks and that leaves burglars and other non-violent offenders. Already we've reduced the incarceration rate significantly.

No one should be imprisoned for using drugs or drinking alcohol unless they've seriously injured or killed someone while doing so.



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 08:05 AM by ressiv


1...the usa.wants to rule the world
2...the only reason they supprt others with money is to get moore profit and power...(if there's noting to get it may die)
3 all technoligy they have is stolen from other parts in the world..
...(main reason america went into WW2 for the german tech's regarding operation"paperclip'.............
4 the only reason that america is able to maintain ther army is with money from there allies..infact the country is moore ore less bankrupt...

after all ..since america went into the war on terror...they have only made moore terrorist's....and they are in no way able to do anything about it...accept to let other countries handel it...and they ca'nt either......
so there are no profits...only loosers...



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 08:08 AM by tunin


Dude, It's quite simple actually.
If you go outside the USA you'll see clearly that your country ONLY make moves that will generate self-benefit. USA send billions of help to poor countries, but be sure that these countries have something the USA wants. Besides the fact billions are spent with war.

Doubting? Ask yourself why your troops aren't @ Africa stopping civil wars, helping to raise the countries from being extremely poor? It's simple (again!), they have nothing to offer.

As one of the leading countries, USA should give example instead of profiting with war, period.


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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 08:13 AM by ArMaP



Originally posted by FlyersFan
Perhaps while you are out in the wastelands you will come to appreaciate
America (but considering the anti-american indoctrination in colleges in foreign countries .. I doubt it).
Have you witnessed this "anti-american indoctrination" in any foreign college?



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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 08:27 AM by fmoriss



Originally posted by redseal
Please tell me why you hate the USA, is it because we are ridding the world of terrorists, or is it because we give to much money in forien aid, do you just hate all of our technological/medical breakthroughs, or are you all just in envy of our way of life?


1) I don't hate the USA and I don't hate any country.
2) Your politicians and government ARE terrorists, two faces liars, invading countries, killing families, making enemies, thinking that they have all the rights to rule the entire world... NOT!
3) You give too much money in foreign aid?
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 06 May 2007 at 01:02:04 PM GMT is:
8,818,002,979,017,94 You should stop giving money because you owe a f*&*ing lot!
4) Your way of life:
You are one of the fatest countries in the world:
www.infoplease.com...

And Pollution:
en.wikipedia.org...:CO2-by-country--1990-2025.png

Please step outside your american vision and think about it...
You will understand why a lot of people hate you and why they do not envy your way of life.

You are burning the candle at both ends...




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