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reply posted on 3-1-2003 @ 11:57 AM by Roderick_Usher


FreeMason: Of course - a really democratic states are only USA (dictatorship of only 2 political parties) and Britain (rotten constitutional monarchy) - and of course rest of the world are insects - typical example of arrogant American conviction... ha ha. How can you say, that Israel is democratic state ?

Basis of so called "American democratic tradition" are derived from ideals of French revolution in the end of 18th century - dont forget France support. Region of USA was never wasted by war. The two world wars was the main reason of American grow and decline of European power. USA grow on blood of victims of wars.

After the war Roosvelt sacrificed Czechoslovakia to Stalin, dont forget it ! At first there was betrayal of France and UK in Munich 1938. They devoted us to Hitler. As I know there was about 200,000 US war victims in WW2. In Czech rep. it was more than 300,000 killed people (but not in battle fields, mainly in Hitler's concentration camps, prisons and scaffolds). But quantity of population - USA: 250,000,000 vs. Czech: 10,000,000 !!! And what about more than 25,000,000 victims of Soviet Union or 6,000,000 of Poland ? Can you imagine the nightmare - that every 4th American would be killed - like in Poland ? Is there time for democracy in so dark times ? US "democracy" was growing up in greenhouse all the time...

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reply posted on 3-1-2003 @ 12:43 PM by ultra_phoenix



Originally posted by Roderick_Usher

1) FreeMason: Of course - a really democratic states are only USA (dictatorship of only 2 political parties) and Britain (rotten constitutional monarchy) - and of course rest of the world are insects - typical example of arrogant American conviction...

2) How can you say, that Israel is democratic state ?

3) Region of USA was never wasted by war. The two world wars was the main reason of American grow and decline of European power. USA grow on blood of victims of wars.

4) After the war Roosvelt sacrificed Czechoslovakia to Stalin, dont forget it !

5) At first there was betrayal of France and UK in Munich 1938.




1) Yeah man ! Specialy in France. They are all insects in this country.

2) May be because it's a democratic country ? I give somes exemples : China is NOT a Democracy, USA are a democracy. Irak is NOt a democracy but Israel is a democracy.

3) " USA growed on victims of wars bloods " Half-true, half-false.
And anyway, it's not the USA who asked to the europeans nations to do 2 world wars ! The USA went to our help 2 times ! Without them, we were all speaking german. And do not forget the Cold War. Cus without the USA, we weren't speaking german, but we were speaking Russian !

4) What an inversion. For you, it's not Stalin and his tanks who's responsible for this, but Roosvelt !!!
Man, it's NOT Roosvelt who's responsible, but it's Stalin !!! And what did he have to do ( Roosvelt ) ? Declaring war to Stalin and her Holly Mother Russia ???

5) Exactely! That's why we need the USA ! We don't have to trust the europeans nations. Specialy France ! I see France like the Brutus of Caesar. They are able to hit us all in our backs !

P.S : Sorry FM, I know that it was you who had to answer him.

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reply posted on 3-1-2003 @ 02:35 PM by FreeMason


Well UP pretty much covered everything Yes your views of democracy is a bit skewed, America is nothing less than the light, the evil that is blanketing this world is smear campaigning us, and turning our candle to a black flame, and the world will suffer when that fire goes completely dark.

Anyways, I like pointing out US WW2 figures, because the liberal bastards of this country skew the facts by hiding MORE facts.

Some 400,000, I keep seeing mixed reports, but I think the 250,000 figure is army alone. We lost 90,000 men in the air in the battle of brittain alone, so 250,000 doesn't make much sense as total losses, when you lose 10,000 men to take an island the size of maybe a city.

Of the some 16 million men in uniform some 11 million were in the Army, and of that only 1/6ths saw combat, that's about 2 million. So of the 250,000 that died approximately, that's about one out of every 8 people, which doesn't include simply wounded, and that doesn't add in the fact that the number is more likely 450,000.

So it is safe to say that of every 5 men that were rudely awakened one day and sent half way around the world to fight someone elses war, 3 came back, which isn't saying much when usually the 5 became good friends.

Now out of a population of 250,000,000 we suffered fairly nothing, but of the Americans even exposed to conflict, we suffered dearly, of the 10,000,000 chezs that saw combat, or some form of it, only as you said about 300,000 died, that's one out of every 33. Versus 2 of 5.

So we saw our part.

Which is saying a lot, because America for the past 100 years nearly, and DEFINATELY for the past 50 years, has been trying to keep the world from blowing up into revolutions right, world wars left, and has done a good job. It has always stuck its neck out for both peace and freedom, but the darkness grows every thicker.

The world was free once, but that ended with the rise of Christianity and Islam, Christianity, eventually evolved, and was no longer a dark shroud, but much of the islamic states are still dark powers. When America freed itself from England it was only doing so from politics.

When Nazism was destroyed, we only spared the world from a cult.

But the world still suffers in a Theocratic fist, and the worst thing isn't their brutal tortures and laws, and hate crimes, but the fact that they've made the whole world see America as the bad guys, because they support Israel.

And the Muslims have convinced the WHOLE world, that a nation whom since its inception has suffered bombings after bombings, a nation where cars pull up along busses and then BLOW UP, some how they have made that country, a racist nation, whom loves to feast on the blood of civilians.

America and Israel are the last lanterns, some of europe are little faint lights in a fog, but they are going out, into apathy.

Japan in the east, is the only fair nation over there, singapore, possibly india.

There is not much in this world between true freedom (America) and partial freedom, and total enslavement to religion, Kings, and fanatics.

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reply posted on 3-1-2003 @ 04:02 PM by Roderick_Usher

fairy tales of good and evil

ultra_phoenix:

1) Well, you are still telling of democracy, but your conviction for France is not so democratic as I can see
Is US and UK democracy better than for example democracy of the Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium ,Netherlands, Austria or Germany today? I don't think so.

2) But word "DEMOCRACY" fades gradually nowadays. Only word remains, without spirit, nothing more... The era of globalization approaching, era of economic dictatorship, era of great organizations of mafia structure. You say "democracy" but I doubt of your capability to define its meaning exactly nowadays. There is inflation of this term when you use it so often. You say "democracy", but I see above all the slavery to the money, the selfish possession of profit. There is big divergence between the theory and reality ! Individual person is nothing face to face to this economic structures.

Israel is maybe democracy, but only for Jews - not for Palestinian people. In this relativize point of view - Hitler was good person too, but only for Nazis, not for us.

3)"The USA went to our help 2 times" - but never much hurry on help And your help wasn't without profit... But who knows - maybe Russians could win the war alone, without you.

"Cus without the USA ... we were speaking Russian !"
- We lived 40 years in so called "The Soviet Empire of Evil", but nobody urges us speaking Russian! Vice versa patriotism and folk culture was supported. People were more goodwilled, they weren't dependent on money too much, not so hungry for selfish profit in this "Empire of Evil". Criminality was very low. Not like today... This system had some mistakes, but nothing is two-dimensional, nothing is absolutely monochrome...

4) You are still telling stories of democracy, but USA follow only its own interests(not democratic ideals for all). For example my country was sacrificed only like pawn on chessboard in game of Empires. Churchil didn't agree with Roosvelt in this case.

"And what did he have to do ( Roosvelt ) ?" Regions of influence were concluded in Teheran and Jalta. In 1945 US Army were in west Bohemia in Plzen city region and US Army stoped its move although they could take all the country - Russians came later. In Prague were big rebelion in this time and SS division massacred civilians. US army scouts came to the city but their army was stopped on demarcation line 30km near !

5) Why do you hate France so much ?



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reply posted on 3-1-2003 @ 04:11 PM by Roderick_Usher


FreeMason: of course

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reply posted on 3-1-2003 @ 04:45 PM by ultra_phoenix



Originally posted by Roderick_Usher
ultra_phoenix:

1) Well, you are still telling of democracy, but your conviction for France is not so democratic as I can see

2) Is US and UK democracy better than for example democracy of the Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium ,Netherlands, Austria or Germany today? I don't think so.

3a) You say "democracy" but I doubt of your capability to define its meaning exactly nowadays.

3b)There is inflation of this term when you use it so often. You say "democracy", but I see above all the slavery to the money, the selfish possession of profit. There is big divergence between the theory and reality ! Individual person is nothing face to face to this economic structures.

4) Israel is maybe democracy, but only for Jews - not for Palestinian people. In this relativize point of view - Hitler was good person too, but only for Nazis, not for us.

5)"The USA went to our help 2 times" - but never much hurry on help And your help wasn't without profit... But who knows - maybe Russians could win the war alone, without you.

6) "Cus without the USA ... we were speaking Russian !"
- We lived 40 years in so called "The Soviet Empire of Evil", but nobody urges us speaking Russian!

7) You are still telling stories of democracy, but USA follow only its own interests(not democratic ideals for all). For example my country was sacrificed only like pawn on chessboard in game of Empires. Churchil didn't agree with Roosvelt in this case.

8) "And what did he have to do ( Roosvelt ) ?" Regions of influence were concluded in Teheran and Jalta. In 1945 US Army were in west Bohemia in Plzen city region and US Army stoped its move although they could take all the country - Russians came later. In Prague were big rebelion in this time and SS division massacred civilians. US army scouts came to the city but their army was stopped on demarcation line 30km near !

9 ) Why do you hate France so much ?


1) Man, you don't know France like I know it. France WAS a democratic country. It's not the case anymore.
France is now looking almost like a bananas republic.
If you understand French, I'll provide you with many links who will help you to understand what's France today.

2) You don't think so ? You right, do not think so, because I'm Belgian, and not american. So, I can explain you how the things are going here.It's really different from the USA. An exemple ? We have a coalition majority. The left, the right and the ecologists have done a government. Where do you see a democracy when ALL the political parties have the power in the same time ????

3a) See above.

3b) Nothing new under the sun.But I agree with you on this.

4) Gee, how do you dare to do this comparison ????

5) Sure, because you, you know many countries who help without asking something in return ?

And sorry, but without the USA, the Russkies was dommed ! USA gave to Russia tanks, aircrafts, jeeps,guns, weapons, ammos,artillery....without the US help, the Russians were losing the war.

6) Tell me, don't you remember 1968 ? It wasn't Russians tanks who were smashing the 1968 Czech soft revolution ? Do you know what the Kremlin told to their tankists ? " You'll fight in Czechcoslovakia against CIA killers teams and counter-revolutionary peoples ".

If you are too young to remember, ask to to some elders, they'll learn you many things about the Russians and 1968.

7) Strange. You think that Roosvelt is guilty, but you don't say anything against Stalin. I told you, it were russians tanks in 1968 who were in your country,not US tanks.

8) That's true. True and sad. I'm still wondering why they gave Czechoslovakia to the Russians. But the Russians were in Austria and reached Vienna. It was a kind of game like : " Gimme Czech' and I'll give you Austria and I'll not go in Greece too "

9) I don't hate them. I just don't like what's France is becomming, and I don't want to see my country becoming a new bananas republic, based on the France model.

So, if I have to fight against them ( the Frenchies ) and against what this country is today, well, I'll do it ! Anyway, I'm doing it already.

[Edited on 3-1-2003 by ultra_phoenix]



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