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Topic started on 10-1-2008 @ 11:38 PM by ats1629
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Wow! Ron Paul wins GOP Debate
www.usadaily.com
 Fox then presented a less than credible focus group that had almost all participants claiming Paul was the loser. Gauging the actual crowd
applause, Paul was the winner, although it remains to be seen if that will translate into a victory in the state. (visit the link for the full
news article)
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reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 11:38 PM by ats1629
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So does anyone find it strange that the "Focus Group" for the fox news debate all thought that Ron Paul was the loser and yet the text votes have
Ron Paul as the winner at 38% with the next closest candidate Thompson at 17%. PS.. I have not made up my mind about who I will support yet... I just
want a fair debate... Good luck finding the online poll on fox..
www.usadaily.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 11:54 PM by spacedoubt
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Frank Luntz Rigs those focus groups.
Not just a little, but in a major way.
More details coming.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:04 AM by SpookshowJon
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Congrats Mr. Paul ... but did everyone see how quickly they downplayed the fact that he won the debate? One of the broadcasters even said that any of
these candidates could win ... except Paul ... c'mon how blantantly biased can the media be? Even when the man does extremely well they treat him
like a pariah.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:09 AM by TrueAmerican
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Originally posted by ats1629
Wow! Ron Paul wins GOP Debate 
So? lol, what's the surprise? Not one of those other candidates can touch him on the issues. That's why he should be President. But no, so many
others want to send superficial, no substance puppets up there, and it just sucks. Have it your way America. Burger King fast food instead of a real
meal.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:14 AM by SectionEight
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Were all of you watching the same thing I was???
Ron Paul came across as a kook. He recieved scorn and deserved ridicule for his off the cuff irresponsible foreign policy answers.
He couldn't even stand with his supporters, telling them if they cared about him they wouldn't act so crazy with all the stupid 911 conspiracy
garbage.
A bunch of nutty supporters screaming as loud as they could does not constitute a win.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:20 AM by TrueAmerican
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Originally posted by SectionEight
He couldn't even stand with his supporters, telling them if they cared about him they wouldn't act so crazy with all the stupid 911 conspiracy
garbage.
A bunch of nutty supporters screaming as loud as they could does not constitute a win. 
Pretty ironic to be posting that on a conspiracy website. Don't ya think?
Edit to add:
Ahhh, but one quick glance at your profile and the posts you've made here spell it out pretty clear why you're here.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:33 AM by Icarus Rising
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Check the registration date there, True. Poster probably signed up just to make that post. The heat is on, and there's a rat in the kitchen! Whatcha
gonna do!
Ron Paul gonna fix that rat, that's what he's gonna do.
The conspiracy here is the ongoing attempt by the MSM to subvert the will of the people.
UB40 Rat in the Kitchen
edit: Ah, I see you are on to the game.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:45 AM by SectionEight
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LMFAO
You supporters are creating your own conspiracy.
Denial...that he is a racist
apologetic....of his past
excuses...that he is still electable
smokescreen...... claiming voter fraud
false elevation of prominance.....stacking meaningless online polls and text message polls
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:56 AM by Icarus Rising
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I'm not a supporter of Ron Paul.
I'm a supporter of free and open elections.
I'm more interested in the future of this country than the smear campaigns of the present.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 11:30 AM by an0maly33
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i haven't completely thrown myself behind ron paul. i actually think we have a few viable candidates this time around. problem is we won't see any
of the good ones get to office, at least that's my fear. in any case, paul has some good ideas and some crazy ones. overall he's a solid guy that
deserves respect and i'd take him over any of the "mainstream" candidates. go peddle your trash talk somewhere else. creating an account just to
troll is against the ToS.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:52 PM by semperfortis
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Well he sounded here like he has no idea what he is even talking about...
He sounds VERY un-presidential and my favorite part is where he claims to have not heard.. hahahahahahahahaha
He answers the question using references that did not occur..
HUH?
Semper
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 12:57 PM by an0maly33
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go back and watch the rest of his responses though. you'll see that this was an isolated blunder.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 01:05 PM by semperfortis
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I was AT the debates.. It was in my home town and I got a free pass due to my position..
I did NOT see it as ISOLATED at all...
I though he sounded foolish and out of touch the entire debate...
Unfortunately so did the candidate I was thinking of backing...
Semper
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 01:17 PM by an0maly33
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actually i now that i think about it, the clips i saw did cut off the question on one or two. the rest had the question and response and i thought he
gave some pretty good responses.
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 01:50 PM by spacedoubt
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Semper,
Wow you were at the debate? Cool..
did you watch the replays later?
Did you notice how Fox Chopped up the replay, removing some of Ron Paul's best responses? Especially where he lit into Carl Cameron for asking stupid
questions.
Not sure who you are supporting..But I noticed Paul made McCain look like a total idiot..and Huckabee, and Romney. It was a beautiful thing.
Ron Paul against the Neo-con mafia..and Fox news..
And he kicked all of their butts!
Whipped by a 72 year old man..LOL
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 11:11 PM by semperfortis
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I saw it somewhat differently...
Yeah being there was historic and I felt honored..
I saw Huckabee as a clear winner, head and shoulders above the crowd.. (Not my candidate by the way)
Romney, the one I lean towards, was very very disappointing and McCain was flat on his face...
Rudy held his own very well as did Thompson..
I, and many with me, saw this as a death knell for Paul. He was off point numerous times and what is it with using the "I can't hear" as an excuse?
I felt his answers lacked conviction and substance...
Many with me felt the same, just that he was very disingenuous.
Semper
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 11:31 PM by spacedoubt
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Wow
It's interesting how the same scene can be interpreted differently.
although, disingenuous is one word could never see being tagged to Ron Paul.
Perhaps the world has forgotten what genuine looks like?
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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 11:34 PM by semperfortis
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Perhaps so my friend, perhaps so...
Not too much surprises me anymore...
Semper
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reply posted on 12-1-2008 @ 03:53 AM by TrueAmerican
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I find it amazing, some of trivial crap that people pay attention to, trying to dig up something, ANYTHING, to put down Ron Paul. I just don't get
it. Instead of going to his site and reading his literature, and then going and looking up historically why he has come to the conclusions he has
about our system, why it is broken, and what it's going to take to fix it, they just want to keep digging up trivial meaningless CRAP.
Find me ONE single candidate that has the voting track record Ron Paul does (something that, uhhhh, MATTERS.) No one but no one can match his record
in Congress. Notice that Paul appeals to people who HAVE done the research.
I am sorry he makes the other candidates look so helpless in debates, if he did that to your candidate. But maybe its time you really gave Paul a hard
look. Most people are so far removed from what Paul talks about, that he is over their heads. Congratulations to you that arrived at the same place
Ron is coming from.
Semp, your posts in here kinda confuse me a bit. Doesn't seem to be the semp I used to know.
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