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Does the bible condemn homosexuality?


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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 07:23 AM by jmdewey60


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Pharicee or priest would adress him with being a rabbi. Rabbis must marry, just like Jewish priests.

I remember reading about this in Holy Blood, Holy Grail, years ago.
I read this, as a new release at the library, then had to buy a copy.
I find their argument of Jesus being married to be very believable.
I do not see why people have a problem with accepting it.
Paul does seem to have a certain antagonism towards the man, Jesus.
Paul seems to be a big fan of the Spirit Being, Jesus, in heaven.
Paul seems to be adverse to a lot of the sticky aspects of being human.
I guess Paul was celibate.
You notice what Paul does to show his respect to the Jewish religion?
He pays for the offerings require for these young men who were taking Nazarene vows.
Part of being Nazarene is being celibate.
With all the possible choices of things that Paul could have done to prove to the Jewish community that he still believed in the Law, why did he pick this law?


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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 01:15 PM by Neo Christian Mystic


A nazarean is only in celibate during his education. When he has finished studying he might marry and have children. Normally such a person would be finished with his studies in five to ten years.



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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 01:27 PM by Neo Christian Mystic



Originally posted by jakyll
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Why do people want to focus on just one thing that is condemned in the Bible. This is starting to sound like a broken record. It's not the people, it's the acts.



True.
But some cannot differenciate between the 2.




It's always funny to see your type. "It's not the people it's the acts" BS! Either you hate the guy for what he does or you accept it. And the Jewish God accepts homofilia with the sex and everything, except when it is done the way the Torah discribes it. To lay the layings of woman refers to a hethen custom involving men having public ritual sex with other men. In the towns where they held these rites they tried to rape angels, men, and they could rape these innocent people to death. Read the book it's all there. Just add a littlle contemporay knowledge and you see. The bible doesn't talk about homophilia at all, except for in the story of David and his male lover.

In Secret Mark a supposed cencored part of the Gospel of Mark, Jesus sleeps naked with Lazarus (also naked and just risen from the dead) just like a man would sleep with a woman.

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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 03:48 PM by pause4thought


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On the previous page you set your own opinions above the teachings of an Apostle, whom you clearly disdain. Now you shamelessly blaspheme Christ himself. And you continue to proclaim yourself a Bible teacher.

Enough said. It's clear to all. Your teachings are not Christian.



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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 01:11 AM by Neo Christian Mystic





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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 11:52 AM by Bombeni


deleted by self; realized it served no purpose.

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reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 11:24 AM by Neo Christian Mystic



Originally posted by pause4thought
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On the previous page you set your own opinions above the teachings of an Apostle, whom you clearly disdain.


An apostle? Oh, you refer to the self-proclaimed apostle, none other than the Pharicee Saulus, who later called himself Paulus who through dubious means has occupied most of NT?


Now you shamelessly blaspheme Christ himself.


Love your neighbour (be it a gay or straight one) like you love yourself. Maybe you would end up in denial and hate yourself if you were gay. But I surely wouldn't. And if they don't receive you, wipe the dust of your shoes and walk out the way you entered. I haven't really done this in respect to you and your sectlike bretherns here at ATS when it comes to the literal controversies in the Bible. You and your bretherns refuse to drink from the source, but continue to proclaim the dead water spilled out by homophobe churchfathers, kings and JW etc. who obviously avoid this debate for any cost. Did you know the Bible says Adam was a hermaphrodite until God made Eve? God had originally intended us for tranny sex. That's something you can add to your list of things you hate with the Word you hold so dearly. And David had a homosexual encounter. And like I said, a book refered to as Secret Mark, by many said to be a hoax because of it's contents, discribes how Jesus has a bit of a, well, cozy nap with Lazarus.



And you continue to proclaim yourself a Bible teacher.


I've never called myself or wanted to educate my self into a teacher. Much less a Bible teacher. I'm everything but a teacher, I'm here to woop your teachers' arses for misleading people like you to decide who is your neighbour and who is not. But if you feel I am a teacher, feel free to live out your fantacies, I won't stop you.


Enough said. It's clear to all. Your teachings are not Christian.


Wrong, I base my "teachings" as you call them on direct translations from the oldest MSs we have. I don't like the idea of echoing anything, either religious, political or ideological. It only brings around ignorance and terror. I need evidence or strong indisia in order to proclaim a theory to the truth. Unlike you.



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reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 12:17 PM by Bombeni



Originally posted by Bombeni














Dr. Love, Please reply:

Is this comment in the post above mine considered ok? I'm just trying to get the new guidelines straight, so help me out here.

"God had originally intended us for tranny sex"

Oh and this too: Jesus has a bit of a, well, cozy nap with Lazarus.

I need to know if this is considered baiting.

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reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 12:46 PM by Bombeni


Still waiting to hear on my inquiry above. My post was deleted within minutes, but my inquiry remains unanswered still.



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reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 04:17 PM by Lucid Lunacy



Originally posted by Fromabove

The word "thief" is also discriptive. Homosexuality in any of it's variations is repulsive to God and is sinful. If there were an exception for homosexual relationships, it would have been stated in the scripture, but it isn't.


You know what else isn't stated in the scripture:


Thou shalt not lay with womankind as one would with mankind


Seems like lesbians are off the hook

Or is the Bible only for men?



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reply posted on 13-9-2008 @ 03:43 PM by Neo Christian Mystic


Good point. Lesbian sex isn't mentioned in the bible. Is it then legal if male homosexual sex isn't? Seems quite strange that homosexuality is only prohibited for men.



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