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Topic started on 6-2-2008 @ 01:03 PM by biggie smalls
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Media Smeared Paul For Racism, Ignored McCain's "Gook" Comments
www.prisonplanet.com
 A shining example of how the media engaged in a witch hunt as part a coordinated campaign to sink the presidential campaign of Congressman Ron
Paul is when they attacked him for vaguely racist comments made by other people in the 80's, while completely ignoring the fact that Republican
frontrunner John McCain openly said he hated "gooks" more recently. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 01:03 PM by biggie smalls
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I posted a thread about McCain's "gook" comment and not many even cared.
This is the POTENTIAL President we are speaking about. I really couldn't give a # less if you were in the Vietnam war and 'hate' the Vietnamese.
This is not the kind of person we want leading our nation.
To have another hate-filled President will break the country's back (if its not already smashed in half from the past 30 years of abuse).
We CANNOT allow racists in the Oval Office, especially if we know they are and are not afraid to say so. SNIP ridiculous.
 James Kirchick's New Republic hit piece, which was echoed by every sector of the establishment media for weeks on end, was a vitriolic, biased,
and agenda-driven smear attack that lumped in half-truths, outright lies and guilt by association in an attempt to demonize Ron Paul as a
racist.
Nice NR, "Conservative" my ass. You sold out big time.
 Bear in mind that the comments Kirchick based his article on were largely drawn from newsletters put out in the 1980's of which Ron Paul had no
editorial control over. Despite the fact that the comments were made by other people, Ron Paul apologized anyway and yet the feeding frenzy that
ensued blatantly exposed the fact that the establishment had been chomping at the bit to seize on anything negative to attack the Congressman
with.
Ron Paul apologized DESPITE not even making the comments himself. What a stand up guy.
Here's the kicker:
 Meanwhile, John "Keating Five", ahem I mean John "anti-corruption" McCain, disgracefully said he hated "gooks" in public for assembled
reporters to hear during his previous presidential campaign in 2000.
"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live," McCain said on his campaign bus.
'So what? This happened eight years ago and McCain apologized for it soon after', would be the likely Neo-Con riposte.
Compare it to Ron Paul, who is still apologizing for comments made by other people 20 years ago, as establishment hacks ninny and obsess about his
imaginary links to white supremacists.
Yeah, what you McCain lovers gotta say about this?
Read the article before you speak and I don't care if it comes from a conspiracy based website.
What do you think ATS is? The mainstream media  .
"I AM THE MEDIA!"
-Props to Sri Oracle
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(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 04:40 PM by jtma508
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Forget this... what about the 'Bomb, bomb, bomb... Bomb, bomb Iran' songs? Or the 100yrs in Iraq? How can any sane person want a president that
has that kind of mindset?
And apparently even political colleagues are worried:
Article
And it's a fellow Republican, Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), whose words he's reading.
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reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 11:52 AM by biggie smalls
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It is truly scary when a Presidential candidate uses racial slurs and laughs about...Then NO ONE IN THE SNIP MEDIA SAYS ANYTHING!
What the SNIP is wrong with the world? Ron Paul apologized for something he had no control over and is given a ton of SNIP, meanwhile
some other douche bag says whatever the SNIPhe wants and nothing happens?
SNIP you media. SNIP you fox news. SNIP you msnbc. SNIP you cnn. SNIP .
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reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 01:32 PM by jtma508
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I hear you biggie. Loud and clear. Things are screwed in they seem to be hurtling toward a brick wall these days. I'm a child of the cold war. I
remember the fear. It was a cakewalk with Mr. Rogers compared to these days.
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reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 08:46 PM by RRconservative
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John McCain is a media darling right now. Big Media knows he is nothing but a liberal Republican, and are propping him up. But once it is one on one
with Mrs. Bill Clinton, they will crucify him. Stuff like this won't pass.
Meanwhile Mrs. Bill Clinton can keep on making jokes about Ghandi working at 7/11, at it will be ignored.
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reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 11:34 PM by biggie smalls
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Thanks for the replies.
I am glad at least a few people find this highly disturbing.
A President who hates a whole race/ethnic group. Well I guess that wouldn't be anything new.
Bush/Cheney seem to have quite a bit against Muslims. Well, Muslims who don't do business with them...So the House of Saud is cool and so are the
Israelis, but aside from that, they're all not worth the effort.
Might as well just bomb the Vietnamese to finish what we started, eh McCain?
You can add "Charlie" to the Axis of Evil list and take Iran, Libya, Somalia, and North Korea off.
Don't forget "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Vietnam."
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 02:53 AM by The Walking Fox
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Yes, just like that "free pass" they gave to her husband, amirite? Once McCain gets the nomination, the news networks will give him hours of free
campaign time, and will do what they're already doing with Clintobama - her hair looks funny, her laugh sounds weird, he's a muslim, no, really, and
we have no idea what he's saying (but he's so articulate!)
For the record, yes, I find McCain's comments disturbing - In fact I find him very disturbing, in total. I feel bad for Republicans for this
election. You're voting between a poke in the eye or a kick in the balls. However I'm not going to buy into the idea of Ron Paul being totally clean
of racism, if only because I give him enough intellectual credit that I figure he probably read the newsletter dedicated to him (since he DID write
pieces for it and all...)
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 07:50 AM by RRconservative
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McCain locks up the Republican nomination. What happens next? The NYT's roll out a smear piece. Didn't they just endorse him a couple of months
ago?
Can't say I didn't see this coming!
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 12:25 PM by biggie smalls
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He may get the Republican nomination, but he's not going to win the election.
I predict Obama taking the Democratic primary and then the Presidential election (well I'm just hoping Hillary doesn't win).
If Ron Paul had a chance I'd want him to win, but its not looking that great.
That is unless the truth about McCain comes out in the media, which doesn't look like is going to happen.
McCain is a neocon war monger with no care for what's right.
He is against torture, but then at the same time, is against banning waterboard torture.
What a hypocrite!
He's ok with the CIA using it on 'terrorists' and 'insurgent's', but of course doesn't want it done on himself.
Cowardice.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 01:31 PM by IAF101
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McCain is much better than the do nothing Dems and their verbosity any day. He states the facts, clear and dried. NO BS and no woolly ideas. He's
done more in his time in Washington than that buffoon Ron Paul ever did. Ron Paul is a joke, lets not even compare him with a serious candidate here.
If he hates Gooks he hates gooks! He is free to have that opinion after he was tortured for two years by them. Also that is something that community
has to decide on and I havent seen anybody from that community coming to take him to task for that. Also, his ideas about Iraq are from a more
informed and aware perspective than Obama or any of the other Democratic idiots out there. On a one on one basis, he has done more for America than
any other Presidential candidate both in terms of legislative service and military service.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 02:13 PM by biggie smalls
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Where do you get your information from?
I can see you are as brainwashed as the next republican.
A possible PRESIDENT is ok to hate an entire race of people?
Are you freaking kidding me?
What the hell is wrong with you?
I don't care if he was tortured, that is no reason to hate every single vietnamese person. That's ignorance.
Pure ignorance. If you're ok with another ignorant ass president, fine.
Waste your vote in November.
He is 100% bull# my friend. He doesn't do #.
American hero my ass.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 02:33 PM by Alxandro
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Considering what he went through while he was a POW, he has every right to feel that way about the people that tormented him.
No one has any right to question his feelings and especially to tell him how he PC he should be.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 03:19 PM by biggie smalls
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Originally posted by IAF101
Also, his ideas about Iraq are from a more informed and aware perspective than Obama or any of the other Democratic idiots out there. On a one on one
basis, he has done more for America than any other Presidential candidate both in terms of legislative service and military service.

Really? Ideas about Iraq...
We lost Iraq. Lost.
Bush said the war was won back in 2003 yet we're still occupying that nation.
We are occupying a supposedly sovereign nation, two actually (Afghanistan) to fight those 'terrorist' boogie men.
Ridiculous.
I'm no fan of the democrats either, but he is far less aware of the reality of the world than Obama and Hillary. How, I don't know. They seem to be
pretty disconnected as well.
McCain thinks throwing guns and money at a problem is going to solve it. It won't. It actually makes it worse.
I'd consider military service to be an OK justification for being President. We haven't had a military man as President for some time.
However, his 'experience' in Washington leads me to believe he is one of the more corrupt.
Years in DC only leads down the 'dark side' so to speak. Nothing good can come of staying in DC for long
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 03:22 PM by biggie smalls
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Actually, we do.
We are Americans and if he wants to be President of the USA we have every right to question him.
So if I was tortured by let's say...Mexicans I have every right to call the whole ethnic/racial group derogatory slurs?
No I do not.
That's called bigotry.
And we should expect more from a US President.
If he wants to be President he should have a little more class than to call his ex-captors gooks.
What ever happened to forgiveness?
If he calls himself a Christian he should be able to forgive those who 'trespassed against him.'
Wasn't there a Yeshua saying about giving your enemy the other cheek.
McCain is Bush Junior.
If you're into that sort of thing, kiss his ass all you want.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 05:12 PM by Alxandro
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Originally posted by biggie smalls
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Actually, we do.
We are Americans and if he wants to be President of the USA we have every right to question him.
So if I was tortured by let's say...Mexicans I have every right to call the whole ethnic/racial group derogatory slurs?
No I do not.
That's called bigotry. 
Yes, it's bigotry but you would still have every right to call the Mexi's anything you want because no nobody has the right or the capability of
forcing you to forgive and forget.
No one can force you or I to like another person just because it is PC.
That would be like forcing people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharption to like Whites. Not gonna happen.
And we should expect more from a US President.
If he wants to be President he should have a little more class than to call his ex-captors gooks.
What ever happened to forgiveness?
If he calls himself a Christian he should be able to forgive those who 'trespassed against him.'
Wasn't there a Yeshua saying about giving your enemy the other cheek.
McCain is Bush Junior.
If you're into that sort of thing, kiss his ass all you want. 
Actually I don't like McCain but yes we should expect more from a Prez.
Likewise, we should also respect the Presidency regardless of who is in office, but we don't.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 06:43 PM by RRconservative
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Originally posted by biggie smalls
He is against torture, but then at the same time, is against banning waterboard torture.
What a hypocrite!
Cowardice. 
John McCain is against the highly successful waterboarding technique. He even voted against only the President himself authorizing it.
He is as wrong on this issue, as you are wrong on his stance.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 07:41 PM by biggie smalls
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No, actually he voted against banning it.
He's willing to let the CIA use it.
Lieberman and McCain advocating torture?
from the source in that thread:
 Sen. Joe Lieberman on Thursday defended his Senate vote against a ban on CIA waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques, saying such
methods could be justified, but only in rare cases to save American lives.
"We have to allow the president to allow the toughest measures to be used when there is an imminent threat to our country," Lieberman said in a
conference call with reporters.
Like Lieberman, Republican presidential contender Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who was tortured as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, voted against the
measure. Lieberman has campaigned for McCain, who effectively sealed the GOP nomination last week after rival Mitt Romney dropped out of the race.
How do you explain that?
He's pro-torture.
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 09:15 PM by jerico65
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I know a lot of former Marines from WW2 that are big fans of the Japanese even now. They admit that their hatred has gotten more mellow over the
years, but some still don't buy Japanese cars.
McCain shouldn't have made those comments in pubic, that's for sure, but I can imagine him having a beef with the Vietnamese after torturing him and
other American POWs.
And this is torture, not waterboarding, the horrible "women's panties on the head" or the equally terrible, "Naked butt pyramids".
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reply posted on 23-2-2008 @ 03:24 AM by IAF101
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Originally posted by biggie smalls
I don't care if he was tortured, that is no reason to hate every single vietnamese person. That's ignorance.
Pure ignorance. If you're ok with another ignorant ass president, fine.

I beat the crap out of you for 5 years straight, break every bone in your body and I'll see how much you like me!
It his opinion and that just fine, he has a right to such an opinion, this is America lest we forget with all the PC Bull! But it should not cloud his
judgment and so far there has been nothing that he's done that would say that he was targeting those people.
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